The Real Secret to Beating Call Reluctance

How do you motivate yourself to make sales calls when you just don’t feel like getting on the phone?

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When someone signs up for my mailing list, I send them an email asking what they’re struggling with. These two responses echo many:

From a radio AE in the Midwest:

Call reluctance. Not because I lack the tools (I read your emails to improve my skills and learn, learn, learn!) but because it’s one of the least favorite things to do.

An East Coast Director of Sales had this to say:

My sales team struggles with call reluctance.  It’s an every day battle.

They’re not alone. We all have days when we know it’s time to make new business calls, but we just…don’t…want…to. So the delay tactics start:

  • We check our email.
  • We reorganize our desk.
  • We go through our paperwork to make sure everything’s been filled out and turned in.
  • We go online to do some “research.”
  • We post something on social media.
  • We check our email again.

It’s not hard to kill an hour or two this way. We feel busy. We’ve accomplished nothing. 

The problem hasn’t gone away. We still need that new business.

How do top salespeople beat call reluctance?

Some of the most useful advice I’ve seen on the subject comes from a blog post by Rory Vaden, author of Procrastinate on Purpose.

Vaden recommends starting each day armed with a list of people to call on.

…before you stop working on any given day make sure to choose the first person you will call on the next day. Going door-to-door 80 hours a week for five summers I always had significantly fewer butterflies on days where I knew exactly what my first house would be.”

You can read his full post on the subject here.

Sales Skills: Dealing With The Chicken List

Sometimes we don’t want to to contact complete strangers. On other occasions the problem is someone we know but can’t bring ourselves to call.

The late radio sales trainer and consultant Jim Taszarek used to call these “Chicken Accounts.”

Taz published a great newsletter called Quota Busters. The newsletter’s gone, but some of his wisdom is still available in his book The Best of Quota Busters:

We don’t like to talk about them, but we’ve all got them. They are the accounts that we’re just afraid to call on – for any one of one million reasons.

It’s a normal sales phenomenon called “Call Reluctance”. Everybody’s got it to some extent. We say that the accounts are “too big,”, they are “newspaper only,” they “said no” repeatedly, or we’re just afraid of them. What to do? Sit on them? No way. Try this – it’s easy and you’ll love the results:

Confront them by writing them down. Write ’em down – make a list of our Chicken Accounts in one column, then look at them (Sales Managers, if you ask your staff to do this exercise make sure you emphasize that the list is for the AE’s personal use only. The list will be shared with no one. Not turned into management. No role-playing, no open review of the accounts. That will have the opposite effect of what were looking for. Got it?)

In the 2nd column, write a comment next to each account, answering the big question, like, what’s the barrier? Why are we reluctant to call on them? What’s the big reason we hesitate when we think about calling on them?

In the 3rd column, write a dollar amount of what they be worth to us if we could pop a hefty little schedule out of them.

Then call on one of them a day or a week. And not a halfhearted call either, go for it – the real thing. But just one a week. Or one a day. Depends on you. Then what happens? You’ll connect with one of them. It’ll turn out that there’s a person who listens to you and they’re interested. And they’re not such jerks after all. It turns out we can cut those suckers down to size – if we do them one at a time. And, this is important – remember to reward yourself.

…They’re bigger in our head than they are in reality. Your Chicken List will disappear. Congratulations.

During my radio sales days, I tackled call reluctance by establishing a ritual.

My goal was to start the process with a list of 10-20 people to call. I’d set a cup of coffee on the left side of my desk, the list in the center, and the phone on the right. I’d pick up the receiver and recite the following incantation:

“Time to make the donuts.”

The line came from an old commercial (direct link here):

In my mind, “making the donuts” meant getting down to business; once I said those words I had to make my first call. I can’t tell you why it worked for me, but it worked.

The real secret to beating call reluctance is this: once you make that first call, it’s a whole lot easier to make the second, and the third, and the fourth. You’ve just got to make the first one.

If you can get yourself to start making the donuts, you’ll be on the road to making some dough.

[reminder]How do you get past call reluctance?[/reminder]

How to Measure Your Listening Skills — A Simple Low-Tech Method

How well do you listen on a sales call?

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You’ve heard sales coaches like me preach the value of effective listening. You’ve heard the same thing from your managers. You’ve read it in books. 

So how good are you? And how do you measure it?

Here’s a simple, low-cost way to make sure you’re listening rather than pitching during an initial sales call. All you need is a pen, a pad of paper, and the ability to be honest with yourself.

This comes from a podcast interview Anthony Iannarino did with sales expert Nigel Green. Iannarino is the author of The Lost Art of Closing and The Only Sales Guide You’ll Ever Need. Green is a business-to-business sales coach.

In the podcast, Green discusses the value of taking notes in a meeting. In addition to using his notes to remember important points of the conversation, he also uses them to track his listening effectiveness:

 One of the things I want to remember is how many questions I ask versus how many statements I make. I just keep a little tally on my notepad. When I ask a question, I give myself a little tick. When I make a statement, I give myself a little tick. It’s a good meeting for me if I ask twice as many questions as statements I make. If you start tracking your question to statement ratio, you will become a better listener.”

Before your next sales call, add “question/statement ratio” to your notepad, and keep close track. Over time, if you’re paying attention, questions will rise and statements will drop.

As the number and quality of questions increases, so will your income.

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Pitchman Power: Killer Sales Lessons From the Ohio State Fair

In an increasingly-online world, your real money still comes from selling in person. Face-to-face, belly-to-belly with your clients.

Another industry that still thrives on face-to-face sales is non-electronic gadgets. The peelers, choppers, and miracle showerheads. Thousands are sold every weekend at state fairs and carnivals.

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The best of the pitchmen and women are highly-skilled professionals. They have learned to quickly get the attention of passersby, draw them in, and convince them to buy something they didn’t know they wanted.

You can learn from them. 

Robert Smith and Kenny Malone of NPR’s Planet Money recently visited the Ohio State Fair and spent some time on the midway. 

Robert and Kenny Go to the Fair is the best 23-minute sales lesson you’ll hear this week.

Here is a direct link to the podcast.

Among the lessons:

  1. The power of getting the prospect involved. At about the 10:30 mark, pitchwoman Heather Keto is selling a pruning tool called the Tiger Jaw. 

ROBERT: All of a sudden, she has placed into my hand, like, these garden clippers…And before I could set it down, Heather pulls out a branch – like a real piece of wood. And she offers it up right in front of me to cut.

KETO: Go for it. You know you want to.

(SOUNDBITE OF BRANCH BEING CLIPPED)..

KENNY:  And what’s amazing about the way Heather has hooked Robert into her presentation is that she’s put him in a position where in order to walk away, he has to put down the fun, new toy. And it’s a loss. Like, no more chopping sticks. No more wow factor.’

In the car business, the close rate goes way up if the dealer can get the customer behind the wheel for a test drive. 

In your business, the test drive is the spec ad.

2. The real pros practice, review, and practice some more. Just past the 14-minute mark, Robert is talking to PJ Magee. The consensus of the folks at the fair is that Magee is the single best pitchman there. 

PJ is selling $100 showerheads to people who aren’t looking for a showerhead. He takes his profession seriously:

ROBERT He still records his pitches, so he can listen back and see, like, are the jokes landing? Or how’s the audience reacting?
 
MCGEE: You’ve got to understand there’s a difference between a professional salesman and a guy that talks [expletive]. Really. The most insulting thing we hear is when someone says, you’re a natural-born salesman. Well, screw you. I spent a lot of time and effort and a lot of energy to learn how to do this properly.’
 
3. You need to ask for the money.
 
ROBERT: What’s your best close move?
 
MCGEE: The best close? The best close is asking for the money. I’ll ask you three questions. Is this product better than the one you have now? Usually, they say, yeah. And then I always ask them this defensively and always back up and put my palms up – if you bought this today, would you use it? I mean, not everybody needs a new showerhead.
 
ROBERT: OK. You cannot see this. But at this point, P.J. McGee has stepped back from the customer. His hands are up like he’s being robbed.
 
KENNY: And he – like as if he’s saying, oh, no, did I cross a line or something?
My instinct is like, no, no, no.
 
ROBERT: You’re fine. You’re fine. Keep going.
 
KENNY: You’re fine. I like you. Keep going.
 
ROBERT: Keep going.
 
MCGEE: Please take my money. Please.
 
KENNY: Oh, so good. And then P.J. McGee has you.
 
MCGEE: ‘You want to use debit, credit or cash?’ Biggest problem with salespeople – 95 percent of new salespeople are afraid to ask for the money. They think it’s rude. Get into another business.’

Get the prospect involved. Practice your craft. Don’t be afraid to ask for the money. Whether you’re selling pruning shears on a carnival midway or digital solutions in a client’s office, the principles are the same.

  • Salespeople: listen to the full episode. 
  • Sales managers: this would make a great subject for a sales meeting.

[reminder]If you’ve listened to the podcast, what will you implement tomorrow — or later today?[/reminder]

 

How to Play the “I’m New” Card — and Why You Should

If you’re a brand-new media salesperson, you don’t want to seem like you’re new at this. When somebody asks you a question, you don’t want them to know you’re a rookie. You’ll be tempted to guess at the answer.

So here’s some advertising sales advice: resist the temptation. Guessing at the answer can only make a mess.

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The Day I Guessed At The Answer
A Cautionary Tale

It was 1995, and I’d been a KEX Radio Account Executive for all of three weeks.

The Sales Manager had introduced me to the Program Director, the News Director and the Production Director. He’d handed me the Yellow Pages (note to millennials: kind of like Google, but on paper), clapped me on the back, and sent me out on the streets.

I got the call-ins that day. A call came in from the director of the local AFL-CIO. He was contacting every station in town looking for morning drive rates.

I quoted a number off the rate card. The prospect asked me why KEX’s morning drive rate was higher than KWJJ’s morning drive rate.

I had no idea. So I guessed.

  • Me: “Our ratings are higher.”
  • Him: “Really? They told me their ratings were higher than yours.”

At that point in my career, the caller knew more about ratings than I did. I tried to defend myself by explaining something I didn’t understand. 

If you’ve ever lost control of a car and landed upside down in a ditch, the conversation went kind of like that. It ended with the client saying this:

I think you’re trying to pull a fast one on me, and I don’t want to do business with you.”

This was followed by the sound of the caller hanging up. For those who’ve never experienced a corded landline, here’s a taste:

I spent the next 20 minutes staring at the wall, assuming I’d be fired as soon as the guy called my boss. 

Today’s Sales Tip From Experience:
Play the “I’m New” Card

When you’re new, there’s a lot you don’t know. You’ll get some training at the start, but much of what you learn comes when somebody asks you a question you haven’t heard before.

When the client asked me why our rates were higher that the competitor’s, the correct answer was, “Bill, I have a confession to make. I’m new here, and I’m not familiar with how our rate structure compares with theirs. Rather than making something up, let me find out the right answer and give you a call back.”

Radio sales veteran Joe Ferguson of Affiliated Media recently gave this advice on LinkedIn:

At the end of every meeting, make a note of any question you were asked to which you did not know the answer and then, learn the answers. In the beginning the list will be lengthy but as your experience builds, so will your knowledge and soon you won’t have many unanswered questions at all.

Don’t make an answer up — doing that will only create heartache when it turns out to be wrong. Admit you don’t know and promise to get back to them with the right answer.

Then get back to them with the right answer. This simple step, by itself, will give you credibility. 

Epilogue: I Wasn’t Fired, and It Got Better

With plenty of time to stew about it, I decided he was going to tell every other radio station in town that Phil Bernstein was a liar. Once KEX fired me, my advertising sales career would be over.

I decided to throw myself on the mercy of the court. I got in the car, drove to the AFL-CIO office, and asked to see Bill. 

He came downstairs and said, “You’re pretty much the last person I expected to see here. Come on up.”

When we got into his office, I said, 

“Bill, here’s what I should have told you when you called: I’ve been doing this for three weeks — I’m brand-spankin’ new at this. I didn’t want you to know that, so when you asked me about KWJJ’s rates I came up with an answer that sounded good to me. You caught me trying to fudge, and you had every right to hang up on me.

I know I’m not going to get any business from you, and that’s only fair. But I don’t want this to reflect badly on KEX Radio.

That broke the ice, and we talked for about 45 minutes. Two days later, he gave me a $2000 order. It was a “pity buy”, but the money spent like I’d earned it.

 

[reminder]If you’re new, what’s the toughest question you’ve had to deal with? 

If you’re a veteran, what’s the biggest mess you made as a rookie?[/reminder]

 

Does the Client Believe It’s Working?

In the advertising sales game, few things are worse than an unexpected cancellation.

The agreement was signed with great fanfare a few months ago. The ad looked great, the digital campaign’s performing well, and you’ve settled in for a good, long relationship.

Then the email comes out of the blue. “It’s not working. We need to go dark for a while.”

If “it’s not working” comes as a surprise, you may need to take a look at how you communicate results.

Your perception of the campaign matters less than the advertiser’s. Does the client believe it’s working?

sales success isn't magic -- does the client believe?
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A Quick Medical Analogy

A recent Seth Godin blog post pointed me to a New York Times article on “sham surgery.”

Sham surgery is a research technique in which patients (who are informed about and consent to this) are led to believe they are undergoing a surgical procedure. The procedure is supposed  to treat a real medical issue such as back pain or asthma.

The malady is genuine; the surgery may not be. Some patients get the real surgery; others just get anesthetic and an incision.

2014 review of 53 trials that compared elective surgical procedures to placebos found that sham surgeries provided some benefit in 74 percent of the trials and worked as well as the real deal in about half…

…Such findings show that these procedures don’t work as promised, but they also indicate that there’s something powerful about believing that you’re having surgery and that it will fix what ails you. [Orthopedic Surgeon Stuart] Green hypothesizes that a surgery’s placebo effect is proportional to the elaborateness of the rituals surrounding it, the surgeon’s expressed confidence and enthusiasm for the procedure, and a patient’s belief that it will help.

If the patient thinks it worked, it worked.

It’s much easier to keep an advertising client when the client believes the campaign is working. Ensuring this is up to you…and the elaborateness of your rituals.

It starts with managing expectations. 

What is the advertiser hoping to achieve with the campaign? Are their goals measurable? Are they realistic?

Do you know what they are?

Find out. Before the campaign starts.

  • If it’s an increase in sales, what sales? How much of an increase? By when? Doubling sales is great, unless the client expects sales to triple.
  • If it’s traffic to the website, how much traffic? To which page? How much are they getting now? Is there a mechanism on the page to take prospects to the next step in the buying process?
  • Are there any holes in the sales funnel — places where a customer might get confused or repelled along the way? The best idea can fail if it’s implemented poorly — you can read about a promotion I botched years ago here.

Are you checking in regularly with the advertiser to to see how the campaign is producing?

Don’t be afraid to ask — the client already knows (or thinks they know) whether it’s working. You’ll be in a much better position to address the issue if you know what they’re thinking.

Are there any unusual, emotional or quirky ways the client is measuring results? For example:

  • A savvy TV rep on the West Coast told me that when clients see their own commercial, they’re much more likely to feel like its producing. He makes a point of asking new advertisers, “What’s your favorite show?”
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    If the client is a loyal viewer of one particular program, the AE always figures out a way to squeeze a spot or two into that show.
  • For years, I wrote all the radio commercials for a big home improvement contractor. Sales were important to him, but even more important was the good-natured ribbing about his commercials from his friends at the country club.
                                                                                      .
    Business could be up 20%, but if the other guys at the club didn’t tell him how funny he was on the radio, he truly believed the advertising wasn’t working.
                                                                                      .
    My eventual conclusion: it was his money, this was how kept score, and Job 1 was to make his golf buddies laugh. I wasn’t proud of this, but seven years of commission checks helped ease the pain. 

You’ve got a much better chance of building a long-term relationship if you make sure your customers see the results of the campaign.

Because if the client doesn’t believe it’s working… it’s not working.

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